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Shock Interview: Veteran FBI Terry Turchie Demonstrates Why FBI Shouldn’t Exist

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Former FBI Deputy Assistant Director Terry Turchie appeared alongside Tucker Carlson of an interview that surely shook up Fox as well as the nation, as he ended up demonstrating just why the FBI should not exist.  I’m not surprised as the Constitution neither mandate nor allows for the FBI to be funded or exist, as well as other alphabet agencies.

Turchie’s statement below let the cat out of the bag.

“And I think we can expect more of this, because quite honestly the electorate in some places is putting more and more progressives and self-described socialists in positions. And ironically, years ago, when I first got into the FBI, one of the missions of the FBI in its counterintelligence efforts was to try and keep these people out of government. Why? Because we would end up with massive dysfunction and massive disinformation and massive misinformation, and it seems to me that’s where we’re at today.”

Caitlin Johnson commented:

On the 18th of November, 1964, the FBI’s appallingly corrupt boss J. Edgar Hoover denounced Martin Luther King Jr. as “the most notorious liar in the country.” A few days later, a Hoover deputy named William Sullivan wrote King a letter posing as a disillusioned follower and using powerful, manipulative language to urge the civil rights leader to commit suicide before evidence of his extramarital affair became public. Enclosed was an FBI recording containing evidence of the affair.

Whenever America celebrates Martin Luther King Jr. Day we should remind ourselves that it is a known, undisputed fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation engineered a psyop to manipulate one of the world’s greatest minds into committing suicide. It is also worth reviewing the compelling argument for the case that the FBI was behind King’s assassination as well.

Hoover, who headed the FBI for decades, obsessively despised King on a deeply personal level. He kept files on the civil rights leader in which he’d scribble hateful comments on memos he received about King, apparently for no purpose other than his own gratification and catharsis. On a memo about King receiving the St. Francis peace medal from the Catholic Church, he wrote “This is disgusting.” On the news of King’s meeting with the pope, he scribbled, “I am amazed that the Pope gave an audience to such a degenerate.”

FBI headquarters still wears the name of this childish pig, a brazen admission by the Bureau that it remains very much the same institution which tried to end Martin Luther King Jr.’s life, the same institution which assassinatedBlack Panthers leader Fred Hampton, the same institution which for years ran the unconstitutional COINTELPRO campaign to infiltrate and sabotage dissident political groups, and which has continued to infiltrate dissident political groups, including Black civil rights groups, to this very day.

We received yet another reminder of the FBI’s true face the other day in an interview with its former Deputy Assistant Director Terry Turchie on Fox’s Tucker Carlson Tonight. In a passing tangent largely unrelated to the rest of the interview, Turchie made the following shocking statement in relation to the ongoing Russiagate saga:

“And I think we can expect more of this, because quite honestly the electorate in some places is putting more and more progressives and self-described socialists in positions. And ironically, years ago, when I first got into the FBI, one of the missions of the FBI in its counterintelligence efforts was to try and keep these people out of government. Why? Because we would end up with massive dysfunction and massive disinformation and massive misinformation, and it seems to me that’s where we’re at today.”

Wow.

I agree, wow!

Johnstone adds:

According to his LinkedIn profile, Turchie joined the FBI in July of 1972. COINTELPRO, the program in which leftist groups were actively infiltrated and undermined, officially ended in 1971, and Hoover had died in May of 1972. This was after “Hoover’s FBI” stopped being Hoover’s FBI, yet a “counterintelligence effort” was still very much alive and thriving to undermine the will of the electorate and prevent them from electing leftists to office.

This one admission, by itself, is in my opinion more than enough to justify the FBI’s total dissolution. Leaving aside any of their other malfeasance [sic] that I mentioned earlier, leaving aside the rest of their other documented malfeasance that I haven’t mentioned, this one admission by Turchie shows clearly that America’s secret police should cease to exist.

The only reason the FBI is being treated any differently is because it’s got such good PR, namely the entire political/media class.

The transcript of the interview is below.

TERRY TURCHIE, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE COUNTERTERRORISM DIVISION, FBI: Sure, Tucker. Well, I’m a – I’m a skeptic because of being in law enforcement. But I think it’s kind of pretty simple.

When you take the election and you take the House, and you now convert all the committees that you have to investigating various aspects of the President of the United States, then your lifeblood has to be to react to stories.

So, you’re going to see more stories planted, so that all these committees can have–

CARLSON: Right.

TURCHIE: –a lot of work to do. And I – I think this is just more of the same. And I think we can expect more of this because, quite honestly, the electorate in some places is putting more and more progressives and self- described socialists in positions.

And ironically, years ago, when I first got into the FBI, one of the missions of the FBI in its counterintelligence efforts was to try and keep these people out of government. Why? Because we would end up with massive dysfunction and massive disinformation and massive misinformation, and it seems to me that’s where we’re at today.

I’m glad I don’t live in D.C. I don’t know how you start to–

CARLSON: Yes.

TURCHIE: –separate this and make – make head or tails from it, but it’s a mess.

CARLSON: I mean, look, if you believe in socialism, if you’ve got some program you want to impose in the country, tell us what it is. Explain us how you – how you think it works. Make the case for it.

But these people are so stupid, and so emotional, so overwrought that they think that the key to running the country is an endless series of Gotcha stories, criminalizing political disagreement. I mean it’s – it’s – it’s the least straightforward way to run a government, I would – I would say.

So, let me just ask you about the original topic that we want to talk to you about tonight, and that’s border security.

So, you heard the new Speaker of the House say the other day that she in – in place of a physical wall would like some sort of high-tech, non- physical, sort of quasi magical wall, a digital wall on the Border, and that that would be more effective somehow than an actual wall.

Do you think that’s true? And why do you think she’s saying that?

TURCHIE: Well, first of all, I don’t think that’s true. But I think it’s pretty easy why she’s saying that. And, in fact, I’ll say this.

If Donald Trump called Nancy Pelosi tonight, and said, “Look, why don’t you give me $5 billion for a – a technological wall along our border?” she’d say, “Now, you know, we can probably start talking about that.”

And the – and the reason is simple. The Democratic Party is simply owned by the technocrats in Silicon Valley. I worked in Palo Alto. I worked counterintelligence and – and terrorism there, and had all kinds of contacts many years ago with Silicon Valley, and you could see this developing then.

The Silicon Valley depends upon cheap labor. They – they love the B-1 visa program, they allowed of a (ph) more National Lab. This is a national entity. They like the B-1 visa program, and they were making no bones about it in meetings we had.

They would – they would say, “Look, we can get people cheaper than having to – to bring in young American kids who we just don’t think are as good of scientists.” Well, that’s baloney, I think.

But they own the Democrats. And the Democrats, in turn, have to do things for them. I mean take a look at just every symptom and every indicator. Whether it’s Elon Musk and the fact that he’s a billionaire because of all of his government contracts, and all of these ideas–

CARLSON: Right.

TURCHIE: –the government funds or Solyndra, or the fact that President Obama and Hillary Clinton and Dianne Feinstein, and all of these people, they have a solid march out to Silicon Valley’s dinners and $1,000-a-plate lunches, and all of these other things, they have to deliver in return.

The Silicon Valley for the Democrats is the new Union. People scratch their head and wonder why don’t – why – what have the Democrats done? Why did they abandon some of the Midwestern states and the people they used to represent?

Well because they have no money anymore. The Silicon Valley has the money. And, quite honestly now, they’re pumping this ideology into some of the people that they’re helping get elected.

It’s very, very dangerous because the Silicon Valley, totally other topic, is completely wrapped around the axle of Intelligence Services from the Chinese to the Russians, even to our friends, some of the friendly nations.

The French said it best one time, a number of years ago, they said, “Look, sure we’re friends with the United States. But we have our own interest. And we will rely on dealing with our interest and make sure that we take care of those before our friendship.”

And that’s – that’s pretty much how all of these places look at it (ph).

CARLSON: I think you’re – I–

TURCHIE: But when it comes to your–

CARLSON: –I’ve never heard anybody say what you just said. Pushing a digital solution to everything is, in effect, a pay-off to their campaign contributors. But now that you say it out loud, it’s so clearly true that I hope you will–

TURCHIE: Remember, Tucker–

CARLSON: –keep saying it.

TURCHIE: –I – I want to. And remember something, when you put all this technology, and the government loves to buy it, one or two years later, it all needs to be replaced with the – the latest best upgrades.

CARLSON: Exactly.

TURCHIE: It’s a constant billion, billion dollar enterprise.

CARLSON: Yes. We’ve been scammed for 20 years by Big Tech–

TURCHIE: Yes, we have.

CARLSON: –and it’s just dawning on us, it’s unbelievable.

TURCHIE: Exactly.

CARLSON: Terry Turchie–

TURCHIE: Exactly.

CARLSON: –you are – you are the cutting edge of that for sure. You figured that out first. Great to see you, thank you very much.

TURCHIE: Thanks, Tucker.

CARLSON: We’ll be right back.

Journalist Mark Ames also pointed out that during the Carter administration there was a push to “transform the FBI from an extralegal secret police agency to something legal and defined.”

In the late 1970s, at the tail end of our brief Glasnost, there was a lot of talk in Washington about finally creating a legal charter for the FBI—70 years after its founding. A lot of serious ink was spilled trying to transform the FBI from an extralegal secret police agency to something legal and defined. If you want to play archeologist to America’s recent history, you can find this in the New York Times’ archives, articles with headlines like “Draft of Charter for F.B.I. Limits Inquiry Methods”:

The Carter Administration will soon send to Congress the first governing charter for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The proposed charter imposes extensive but not absolute restrictions on the bureau’s employment of controversial investigative techniques, .including the use of informers, undercover agents and covert criminal activity.

The charter also specifies the duties and powers of the bureau, setting precise standards and procedures for the initiation ,and conduct of investigations. It specifically requires the F.B.I. to observe constitutional rights and establishes safeguards against unchecked harassment, break‐ins and other abuses.

…followed by the inevitable lament, like this editorial from the Christian Science Monitor a year later, “Don’t Forget the FBI Charter”. Which of course we did forget—that was Reagan’s purpose and value for the post-Glasnost reaction: forgetting. As historian Athan Theoharis wrote, “After 1981, Congress never seriously considered again any of the FBI charter proposals.”

The origins of the FBI have been obscured both because of its dubious legality and because of its original political purpose—to help the president battle the all-powerful American capitalists. It wasn’t that Teddy Roosevelt was a radical leftist—he was a Progressive Republican, which sounds like an oxymoron today but which was mainstream and ascendant politics in his time. Roosevelt was probably the first president since Andrew Jackson to try to smash concentrated wealth-power, or at least some of it. He could be brutally anti-labor, but so were the powerful capitalists he fought, and all the structures of government power. He met little opposition pursuing his imperial Social Darwinist ambitions outside America’s borders—but he had a much harder time fighting the powerful capitalists at home against Roosevelt’s most honorable political obsession: preserving forests, parks and public lands from greedy capitalists. An early FBI memo to Hoover about the FBI’s origins explains,

“Roosevelt, in his characteristic dynamic fashion, asserted that the plunderers of the public domain would be prosecuted and brought to justice.”

It’s not just the FBI that needs to go, but every single federal agency not outlined in the US Constitution, including the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Education, Department of Energy, and Department of Energy, as they are all involved in eroding our freedoms and rights, not protecting them.

Article posted with permission from Freedom Outpost


Tim Brown

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